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from ABC News.com March 12, 2005

You Call That Art?

Updated 12:02 AM ET March 12, 2005 People got very excited about Christo's latest public art work, "The Gates," in New York's Central Park. For two week's 7,500 metal gates draped with orange fabric were staked along 23 miles of the park's footpaths. Some people called "The Gates" a masterpiece. Others called it an ugly nuisance.

New York Post columnist Andrea Peyser said all the orange fabric on "The Gates" made it look like an ad for Home Depot.

New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg (R) was annoyed by the criticism. "Nobody's criticizing this. Everybody likes it. And this is certainly art," he said.

It is? Well, I kinda like it, but how does the mayor know that "The Gates" is really art, and not just shower curtains on poles? Do people really know what's art and what's just stuff?

We ran a test.

On ABCNews.com, we showed four reproductions of art works that are considered masterpieces of modern art along with six pieces that will never make it into any museum. We asked viewers to decide which work was art and which was not.

I assumed the famous art would get the most votes if only because art lovers would recognize them, but they didn't. Most got far fewer votes than the winner.

The one that received the most votes as a "real" artwork was a piece of framed fabric "20/20" bought at a thrift store for $5.

We also conducted the test with New Yorkers at Manhattan Mall. We asked people to tell us which art works they'd expect to see in a museum. We included copies of the famous paintings, plus some other items.

How do critics and curators decide which is art?

How do they determine that Damien Hirst's embalmed shark and sliced cow carcasses are art?

Why is Willem de Kooning's "A Tree in Naples," which we included a reproduction of in our quiz, worth millions, when a more realistic looking landscape, done by elephants with paintbrushes in Thailand, is worth much less?

I asked an art historian: Why is De Kooning's "A Tree in Naples" art? The work doesn't look like a tree, let alone Naples.

"But if you look closely, you might say this brown part is the bark of the tree. You might say the blue is the sky. Maybe that's, maybe that's the case and maybe it's not. But you bring to it whatever feelings that this evokes," said Samantha Hoover, an art historian at New York's School of Visual Arts.

What about Kasimir Malevich's Black Circle, which we also included in the online quiz? "He was saying I want to free art from telling a story," said Hoover.

So it's just all in the eye of the beholder?

"I wouldn't say it's all in the eye of the beholder," Hoover said. "I think you need to know the story behind the work to understand its full impact and meaning."

OK, I can get that concept. Watching Ed Harris' performance in the film about famous artist Jackson Pollock, I learned that Pollock's creative genius came from his tortured soul. That led to a big breakthrough in modern art. But do the people who pay millions for Pollock's work really see the difference between his dripping colors and a child's painting?

Four of the art works in our test were done by 4-year-olds, and when we showed their artwork on the Web, and showed it to people at the mall, the kids' work ranked ahead of most of the masters.

I assumed real artists wouldn't fall for the trick, so we invited some to take our test. Most of them also put at least some of the kids' work up there with the masters.

One artist, Victor Acevedo, described one of the children's pieces as "a competent execution of abstract expressionism which was first made famous by de Kooning and Jackson Pollock and others. So it's emulating that style and it's a school of art."

When I told him the work was done by a 4-year-old he said, "That's amazing. Give that kid a show."

Actually, it was a collaboration. Maybe they should give Hannah and Haley, the two 4-year-old girls who painted it, a show of their own. More than 1,800 people said their work was great art.

And even Hoover, the art historian, ranked one of the children's paintings among the real artworks. When I told her who did the work she said, "It has good composition. I think it has good depth and space."

So can anybody explain to me why people want to spend millions of dollars on abstract art if any 4-year-old could create something great?

"There's some art that's validated by the establishment or by the media and then there's the rest," said artist Deborah Gilbert.

But maybe the establishment is out to lunch.

An artist who calls himself Flash Light told me, "The function of art is to make rich people feel more important."

Well, if rich people want to spend their own money this way, fine.

But you should know that you're contributing your money too. The politicians may say they're starved for funds, but they're still giving your hard-earned tax dollars to museums that exhibit these kinds of things.

Which makes me and some of our testers say: Give Me a Break!



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Koons has made a fortune from such works as basketballs suspended in water, porcelain reproductions of Michael Jackson with his chimpanzee Bubbles (on permanent display at SFMOMA) and plastic inflatable bunnies.

In 2013 Koon'a "Ballon Dog" sold fo $58.4 million. "Ballon Dog" is a 10-foot-tall stainless-steel structure looks like it was made from ballons. It is being "heralded by the entire "art establishment" as original creations when it is known, that assistants of today's genius artists, actually create the "work."

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Of course, today, anyone who picks up a pencil or a brush can call one's self an artist. Forget the basics of drawing. Hockney's message, whether he meant it or not, is that if you want to draw "realistically," tracing is good enough.

But why draw at all? With an artist's statement, anything is art: an unmade bed with stained sheets, used condoms, empty vodka bottles, etc. (My Bed by Tracy Emin, sold to Charles Saatchi for £150,000), an empty room with lights turning on and off (The Lights Going On and Off by Martin Creed, the £20,000 Turner Prize winner in 2001), or a sealed container of an artist's personal "waste production" (a popular museum purchase).

Sorry, but only clichés will do here: "art is in the eye of the beholder", and "to each his own", whether you are the artist or the viewer. Just do not ask me to bow down and worship work I do not respect, or does not excite me. And do not expect me to stop doing all my work freehand. It would take far longer to draw with the hassle of tracing and the results would be far poorer. Besides, what satisfaction would I receive from tracing anything, when drawing gives me such joy and the rewards are self-evident.




Editor: Are Conceptual Artists actually artists???

Is a unmade bed or lights going on and off in a room, or a dead shark, or artists that paint cartoon heads on famous paintings. (The Camel guy in China), Or, artists that don't even paint there own works but hire others, to choose the colors and paint Should these people be considered artists at all????

Does, 3 basket balls, by Jeff Koons, in a tank of distilled water or ballon sculptures consitute Art??

Jeff Kloons, of 3 basketballs in water fame claims that folks "arn't born with talent that's (just) some abstract thing. It's all about being aable to have vision". Koons was a stockbroker before he stated doing art for big bucks.

IMHO, they are PSEUDO artitsts all of them couldn't even draw a straight line. Sorry but if claim to be a artist you must have artist skills. Like drawing a straight line. Can you imagine John Lennon saying, "heck, its benarth my dignity to sing and play my songs. I wrote half of the song and that should be enough. Someone else should finish it and sing my songs add their own music to my words. Then Lennon would claim credit for the song and music. This is rediculous.




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"Pool with Two Figures" (1972) sold for $90 million in 2018

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Animal Art:Recurring Themes

News of the Weird has long reported on gallery patrons' inability to distinguish "abstract impressionist" works by human artists (even by masters) from the scribbles drawn by toddlers -- and even animals.

To attempt to add sophistication to the topic, a museum at University College London recently opened a comparative installation of "works" from an elephant and several kinds of apes, leading the museum manager to observe that "art produced by apes is a lot more creative."

The elephant, with brushes affixed to its trunk, "is not deliberately doing anything" when it stomps or swirls the paint around on the canvas, but ape art is "much freer" and "expressive" -- "almost indistinguishable from abstract art by humans ...."

But, he added sheepishly, "Whether this is actually art is the big question." [Camden New Journal (London), 2-2-2012]




Richard Prince artist(?) is making $100,000 a pop off other people's Instagram photos

From sfgate.com May 22,2015

"The latest exhibition by New York artist Richard Prince is raising ethical questions in the art world. The reason? He's selling canvases that feature other people's Instagram photos.

"New Portraits," first exhibited at the Gagosian Gallery in New York last year, features portraits of subjects that were not shot by Prince himself. Rather, they are screenshots of images other people have uploaded to Instagram. Prince has added his own comment below those already there, and printed the entire work on large canvasses.

The artworks are now selling in New York this weekend for around $100,000 (£64,000) each, Gothamist reports.

One subject of the photos, DoeDeere, confirmed on Instagram that Prince did not seek permission before re-purposing one of her images. She posted on Instagram: "yes, my portrait is currently displayed at the Frieze Gallery in NYC. Yes, it's just a screenshot (not a painting). No, I did not give my permission and yes, the controversial artist Richard Prince put it up anyway."

She said the canvass featuring her portrait sold for $90,000 (£57,500)."

Is this art? Can prince even call himself a artist?




Conceptual Art, Installation, and Perceptual art

1917  Fountain, a urinal by Dada by Duchamps
      There are 8 replicas made by Duchamps in 1964



1987  
      Most famous of these is "Piss Christ" by Andres Serrano


      Which is a photograph of a plastic crucifix submerged in 
      a glass of the artist's own urine. This caused great 
      controversy when first exhibited. The work was sold for 
      $277,000 in 1999, which was far beyond the estimated
      $20,000 – $30,000.


2006  Is Damien Hirst's  $8 million for a dead shark
      embalmed in a tank of formaldehyde art? 
      The First shark rotted away


2007  Or,  is Damien Hirst's diamon skull $100 art?
      Damien Hirst  paid someone $20  million to actually make the diamond skull.



2012  Is a $70,000 340 ton rock worth $10 million as art?

      
2012  Are 100 million handcrafted porcelain sunflower seeds art?

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2013  Jean-Michel Basquiat a street art painting fetches record $48.8M in NY

       This painting looks like it was done by my 6 year old is it worth $48 million?  




2016  
      Photograqpher Kevin Abosch sold a picture of a potato for over $1 million

      He also sells portraits of Silicon valleys one percenters for $150k a picture.




Vandalism in art 2006 Pinoncelli, French, attacked the Fountain, a urinal made by Duchamps in 1917 with a small hamer. 2003 2 British artist, the Chapman brothers, were accused of adding faces of clowns and pupets to 80 etchings in a Edition of Goya's war they had purchased. 2002 Pinoncelli, French, (Fountain hater) at a festival of performance art in Cali, Colombia, protesting the kidnapping of a Colombia politician Ingrid Betancourt, by FARC leftist gurrelias cut off half of the smallest finger on his left hand, and used his blood to write FRAC on a white wall. His artwork did not impress FRAC who are still holding Ms. Betancourt. 2001 In "Break Down", Landy, British,in a empty department store, destroyed all his possessions including art donated by friends 2001 A Hirst display at Mayfair Gallery -- half full coffee cups, dirty ashtrays, and beer bottles and the like, was thrown away by janitors who mistook it for trash. 2000 2 chinese artist urinated on Tates Modern version of the Fountain 1999 2 chinese artist jumped on Tracey Emins unmade bed in "My Bed" on exhibit at Tate Britian 1993 Pinoceelli, French, attach the Fountain with a hammer after pissing in it. 1991 Damien Hirsh, British, encases a dead 14-ft tiger shark in formaldehyde, at Saatchi's gallery in London. Hirsh calls the dead shark "The Physical Impossibility of Death In The Mind Of Someone Living". Saatchi paid Hirst £50,000 for it in 1991, after Hirst had spent £6,000 on acquiring the dead animal from Australia. Saatchi's sold the shart to a American stockbroker for £7 million (about $12 million) in 2005. The shark was also nominated for the prestigous Turner award. Shark Picture In 2007 Hirst is trying to sell a human skull enbeded with diamonds for $100 million. Hirst did not make it. He paid $20 million to a jeweler to make it for him. Hirst hopes to make a $80 million profit because of his name. Hirst sold the skull in Sept 2007 for $101 million. 1991 A artist took a hammer to Michelangelo's David and damaged a foot 1976 Blue dye was sprayed over Carl Andre display of Bricks at the Tate Gallery Black ink was squirted into a transparent container displaying Damien Hirst's dead sheep perserved in formaldehyde at the Serpentine Gallery in London 1956 Mona Lisa struck with a stone